The talk is that the Spider-Man 4 villians have been revealed by their appearances in Spider-Man 3, although it seems to have been forgotten that so many other villains have been planted in the films and haven't necessarily appeared in the following movie.

Apparently though, one of those pesky insiders has come out and talked about how the Lizard will be one of the villains in Spider-Man 4, that film that no one is even sure they are doing yet. So salt shakers at the ready.

According to Freeze Dried Movies through Moviehole they have the first hand knowledge of who will be the villains in the, as yet unconfirmed, fourth film. Beware, there are possible spoilers for both the third and fourth films.

"In the third entry, Dr. Curt Connors (played by Dylan Baker) looks at a piece of symbiote with Peter Parker. The movie then travels along it's path without another mention of that "piece" of symbiote. This is the set up for Spider-Man 4 where that small piece of alien symbiote becomes CARNAGE."

Okay, well we've seen these set-up's before, and this one is a particular stretch, but still, let's move on.

"Connors is set to become the long awaited LIZARD! these two villains have all been CONFIRMED for Spider-Man 4. There is talk of the Black Cat making her first appearance, but that's all but official."

Black Cat isn't official? Well neither are any of the rest so bear that in mind. It's interesting that both Lizard and Black Cat were touted as being in the third film during the early stages so anything could happen yet, particularly since no one has really decided on the next film.

Clint thinks that the next film depends on the studio agreeing to pay Maguire his US$35 million fee for a return, with the money that Spidey is making right now I don't think that's a problem, it's really if the rest of the team stay on board.

Clean sheet, and any choice of baddie, who do you want to see going against Spider-Man in a fourth outing? I like the Carnage idea, although being of the cartoon series era I'd love to see Lizard Man too.