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Raimi talks Spider-Man 4 with Dunst

Spider-Man3.jpgSam Raimi has been talking about Spider-Man 4, finally, and has revealed that he is working wit the writers and producers to see what the story will be. Now that's the first worrying piece of news about the project because you know who the producers are and what they are capable of with their projects – throw more villains at it, make it less serious and more comic-like – oh dear.

Of course there's some other interesting news in that it looks like the film won't happen without Mary Jane aka Kirsten Dunst.

Sam Raimi was interviewed about the film and revealed a number of titbits about Spider-Man 4, however he's not wanting to talk about who the bad guy is, or the bad guys, and that's an important thing to point out.

Despite the mistake in the MTV article through SciFi Wire which makes you unsure what he's really trying to say, I think the gist of it is that Sam Raimi is talking about “villain or villains” and has been adamant to say that a few times in the interview – the mistake is that during the quote MTV write villains or villains, which I think is a mistake typing on their part, not Raimi's.

However what that suggests is that the film is open to one villain, and if the producers are sitting there shouting “throw three at him at once and dilute their stories and his and make sure it's a mess because that's what we do”, Raimi is pushing back and has hope that there may only be one. Did I just say that line?!

He points out that they have not been working on Spider-Man 5, this is just the fourth film they are talking about. He goes on to say:

“We’re definitely talking about working from all the material in the comic books and nothing [invented] outside of that...All the characters or villains or villains, whatever we decide to do will be from Stan Lee’s creations or those that came after him.”

Now that's the bit that I think they actually meant to write “villain or villains” since the article then goes on to talk about the singular versus the plural and that he said it twice in the interview.

Raimi did say that they have a pretty good idea who that would turn out to be, but right now they aren't saying a single thing about the bad guy.

He goes on to talk about Kirsten Dunst returning, and while Tobey Maguire is signed up, she remains a mystery and Raimi has no idea where negotiations are with her, however, he wants her back.

“I can’t imagine making a ‘Spider-Man’ movie without Kirsten,” he said, seemingly contemplating the idea in his head with a long pause. “Of course it can be done because Spider Man has existed without the character of Mary-Jane but she’s one of my favorite parts and it would be a shame not to have her in the picture. I’m hoping she’ll be in it and I’m planning on having a story with her in it.”

Well that's good news. I think if he can keep the producers in check and run the film, as he did with the first and second, then we can see a return to form for Spider-Man. However I'm wondering with the fourth if Raimi wants to bow out on a high rather than the low of the third.



Was spidey 3 really that bad on it's own merits? no. anyone pretending it was missed the point of the whole film, which was to have a bunch of silly dressed people fighting each other with powers. It did that perfectly.

It lacked depth, substance and charisma. that scene where peter break danced K.D. Lang in the black suit was truly one of the worst points in comic book film since Superman 3. But the film wasn't a total wash. Sandman and the goblin were handled well, and so was Venom, minus the fact that he needed screen time and got little.

So when we start thinking of spidey 4, what should we expect? Not much, if you ask me. Just fun. Fun and funnilly dressed super powered people beating the ever loving dog crap out of each other, with a thin layer of "with great power comes great responsibilyty" nonsense. I love spider man. And I love the humanity in the character. I do think the first 2 movies did a better job of portraying it than 3, but 3 wasn't bad enough to turn me off of the series for good.

But what would i wish to see? ONE villain, of course, or maybe 2 villains who would make sense to be together, like Venom and Carnage since one came from the other. Or even Doc Ock and the lizard, since both were professors ( ock is dead, just making a point ).

the point i am blindly plondering here is simple. It's a comic book movie about a dude with powers and a hot redhead chick. Let's look forward to it, hope Rami is onboard and remember what it was about the source material and movies we like so far.

Mogulus, you're right. On it's own Spider-Man 3 isn't that bad, but alongside the first two films it's definitely weaker and does suffer for the strength of the other two as real films.

Now looking at it as a comic book film and nothing more, you're dead right. The bad guys were brought to the screen well, but without the depth as they had been in the last two films.

I am looking forward to it, I'm just scared that the producers take it over, throw three or four villains at it and then dilute what makes the Spider-Man films so good, that mixture of the comic book and the reality, it doesn't go as far as Batman but it does do it well.


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